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	<description>Finally...Health Insurance That Makes $en$e!</description>
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		<title>By: HSA Insurance</title>
		<link>http://hsaguy.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/are-hsas-too-confusing/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>HSA Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Scott.  Don&#039;t give up on trying to get through an insurance companies underwritting process.  There are many insurance companies available and they all have slightly different underwritting guidelines.  Enlisting the help of a professional insurance agency is always your best bet, and the nice part about hiring one is they are free.  They work for commission from the insurance companies, but by law, your rates are the same whether you use a professional agency or buy directly from the insurance company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Scott.  Don&#8217;t give up on trying to get through an insurance companies underwritting process.  There are many insurance companies available and they all have slightly different underwritting guidelines.  Enlisting the help of a professional insurance agency is always your best bet, and the nice part about hiring one is they are free.  They work for commission from the insurance companies, but by law, your rates are the same whether you use a professional agency or buy directly from the insurance company.</p>
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		<title>By: Davis Liu, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://hsaguy.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/are-hsas-too-confusing/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Davis Liu, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The challenge is do consumers understand when to spend their HSA dollars wisely and when they can safely avoid care?  A GAO study found that people using HSAs the most were those with high income who are using HSAs to fund retirement as well as accountants and doctors. The former know the tax advantages and the latter know when and how to spend their dollars carefully when it comes to medical costs.

That&#039;s why I wrote the book Stay Healthy, Live Longer, Spend Wisely - Making Intelligent Choices in America&#039;s Healthcare System.  Written in an easy to understand format, it helps people be educated healthcare consumers so they know how to navigate the healthcare system like an insider.  Save money.  Stay healthy.  Read free book excerpts at http://www.davisliumd.com.

Davis Liu, M.D.
Author of Stay Healthy, Live Longer, Spend Wisely - Making Intelligent Choices in America&#039;s Healthcare System.
http://www.davisliumd.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The challenge is do consumers understand when to spend their HSA dollars wisely and when they can safely avoid care?  A GAO study found that people using HSAs the most were those with high income who are using HSAs to fund retirement as well as accountants and doctors. The former know the tax advantages and the latter know when and how to spend their dollars carefully when it comes to medical costs.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I wrote the book Stay Healthy, Live Longer, Spend Wisely &#8211; Making Intelligent Choices in America&#8217;s Healthcare System.  Written in an easy to understand format, it helps people be educated healthcare consumers so they know how to navigate the healthcare system like an insider.  Save money.  Stay healthy.  Read free book excerpts at <a href="http://www.davisliumd.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.davisliumd.com</a>.</p>
<p>Davis Liu, M.D.<br />
Author of Stay Healthy, Live Longer, Spend Wisely &#8211; Making Intelligent Choices in America&#8217;s Healthcare System.<br />
<a href="http://www.davisliumd.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.davisliumd.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
		<link>http://hsaguy.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/are-hsas-too-confusing/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the best and simplest explanation I&#039;ve seen.  Good post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best and simplest explanation I&#8217;ve seen.  Good post!</p>
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		<title>By: heidi</title>
		<link>http://hsaguy.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/are-hsas-too-confusing/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I missed your radio talk but maybe I will catch it next time. Health insurance is so confusing so it is nice to get some information from you.!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I missed your radio talk but maybe I will catch it next time. Health insurance is so confusing so it is nice to get some information from you.!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Borden</title>
		<link>http://hsaguy.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/are-hsas-too-confusing/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Borden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most uninsureds do fit in the &quot;wrong priority&quot; list.  I am glad to hear you are not one of them!

Thanks again for clarifying.  You are an individual that needs the help of a real professional individual health insurance agent.  Although health companies are extremely picky in their underswriting, don&#039;t give up hope.  I&#039;m not saying I can get you coverage for the $80 per month you are now saving in your savings account, but according to underwriting guidelines for one of my companies any infertility medication that is beyond 3 years since last taken is STANDARD ISSUE!!  Some medications only require 1 year since last taken.

I just got my 30 year old chiropractor here in Kansas a $5000 deductible HSA qualified plan for $57 per month.  It includes first-dollar (before the deductible is satisfied) benefits for annual checkup, mammogram &amp; pap at no extra charge.  That gives her $5 million of coverage should something major happen plus her annual checkup at a very affordable rate.  

Email me your  info including name, age, home zip code, any other health conditions we haven&#039;t discussed to scott@myHSAguy.com .  I will see what I can do.

And now for the bad news... If I find you quality coverage you are going to have to make a major change to your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most uninsureds do fit in the &#8220;wrong priority&#8221; list.  I am glad to hear you are not one of them!</p>
<p>Thanks again for clarifying.  You are an individual that needs the help of a real professional individual health insurance agent.  Although health companies are extremely picky in their underswriting, don&#8217;t give up hope.  I&#8217;m not saying I can get you coverage for the $80 per month you are now saving in your savings account, but according to underwriting guidelines for one of my companies any infertility medication that is beyond 3 years since last taken is STANDARD ISSUE!!  Some medications only require 1 year since last taken.</p>
<p>I just got my 30 year old chiropractor here in Kansas a $5000 deductible HSA qualified plan for $57 per month.  It includes first-dollar (before the deductible is satisfied) benefits for annual checkup, mammogram &amp; pap at no extra charge.  That gives her $5 million of coverage should something major happen plus her annual checkup at a very affordable rate.  </p>
<p>Email me your  info including name, age, home zip code, any other health conditions we haven&#8217;t discussed to <a href="mailto:scott@myHSAguy.com">scott@myHSAguy.com</a> .  I will see what I can do.</p>
<p>And now for the bad news&#8230; If I find you quality coverage you are going to have to make a major change to your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: forHealth</title>
		<link>http://hsaguy.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/are-hsas-too-confusing/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>forHealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting because I have heard many of the same arguments. People assume that I am not taking a priority for my health. I must be foolishly spending money on wants and not needs, right?. The truth of the matter is that I was denied by the insurance company because of a certain medication I took, which I paid out of pocket for. Infertility treatment is an automatic denial for private insurance.

See that makes my situation more complicated. I practically begged for an HSA policy that I could afford. Instead I was turned over to the state subsidized high risk pool. That plan offered me NONE of the financial protection of a preferred policy. The premiums, deductibles, co-pays, and co-insurance was more than my annual income - and that was before I got to the actual HSA part. What a joke.

I like the concept of an HSA. I really do. But the major insurance companies are making it nearly impossible to even have one. So I kept my money and decided to invest it on my own, a little at a time. It is all I can do.

All of those financial questions you asked don&#039;t apply to me. I eat out 1-2 times a year. 1 movie in the theater a year. No unhealthy, expensive habits like smoking or drinking. No vacations.  I managed to figure out a budget for a policy that I could afford and the insurance company wouldn&#039;t take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting because I have heard many of the same arguments. People assume that I am not taking a priority for my health. I must be foolishly spending money on wants and not needs, right?. The truth of the matter is that I was denied by the insurance company because of a certain medication I took, which I paid out of pocket for. Infertility treatment is an automatic denial for private insurance.</p>
<p>See that makes my situation more complicated. I practically begged for an HSA policy that I could afford. Instead I was turned over to the state subsidized high risk pool. That plan offered me NONE of the financial protection of a preferred policy. The premiums, deductibles, co-pays, and co-insurance was more than my annual income &#8211; and that was before I got to the actual HSA part. What a joke.</p>
<p>I like the concept of an HSA. I really do. But the major insurance companies are making it nearly impossible to even have one. So I kept my money and decided to invest it on my own, a little at a time. It is all I can do.</p>
<p>All of those financial questions you asked don&#8217;t apply to me. I eat out 1-2 times a year. 1 movie in the theater a year. No unhealthy, expensive habits like smoking or drinking. No vacations.  I managed to figure out a budget for a policy that I could afford and the insurance company wouldn&#8217;t take it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Borden</title>
		<link>http://hsaguy.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/are-hsas-too-confusing/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Borden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear forHealth,

Thanks for your comment!  

I can tell you are passionate about incredibly high health insurance costs.  After visiting your blog I understand why you are stating that the insurance premiums are too high.  You are also self-employed.  You have chosen to not carry any health insurance.  You are trying to fund a savings account $80 per month.  As long as you don&#039;t have a major sickness or injury you can probably pay for your annual physical and your occasional minor sicknesses that way.  

As you know you are running a high risk.  I suppose if you had a heart attack you could go to the local public hospital and receive some sort of treatment and declare bankruptcy.  Some people are comfortable with that.  Most are not.

Maybe you are just starting out being self-employed and aren&#039;t making any money yet.  Hey, I started out in the insurance business at age 22 and I struggled.  There was about a 2 year period when I didn&#039;t have health insurance myself, and I&#039;m in the biz!  

According to www.freemarketcure.com, 
18 million of America&#039;s uninsured are between 18 and 34 and spend 4 x more money on alcohol, tobacco, entertainment, and dining out than health care.
17 million of America&#039;s uninsured make over $50,000 per year.
9 million make over $75,000 per year.

Now I&#039;m going to ask you some tough questions:

Do you have cable / satellite TV?
Are you making monthly payments for a newer car?
How many times per month do you eat out?
Do you use tobacco?
Do you have an expensive hobby ?

Most people do have the money to purchase health insurance, they are just spending it recreationally.

We live in a free country (for now).  You can choose not to purchase health insurance.  If you visit my website www.myHSAguy.com you can quote many health insurance plans in your state.  Even if you go with a $5000 deductible you would still get the PPO network discount for whatever bills you do incur.  You can pay off a $5000 deductible far easier than a $100,000 cancer.

I&#039;ve said over and over again that I am an insurance agent that doesn&#039;t like insurance.  
I agree with you that health insurance premiums today are too high.  

Believe it or not our beliefs are similar.  I just feel there is a need for a safety net.

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear forHealth,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!  </p>
<p>I can tell you are passionate about incredibly high health insurance costs.  After visiting your blog I understand why you are stating that the insurance premiums are too high.  You are also self-employed.  You have chosen to not carry any health insurance.  You are trying to fund a savings account $80 per month.  As long as you don&#8217;t have a major sickness or injury you can probably pay for your annual physical and your occasional minor sicknesses that way.  </p>
<p>As you know you are running a high risk.  I suppose if you had a heart attack you could go to the local public hospital and receive some sort of treatment and declare bankruptcy.  Some people are comfortable with that.  Most are not.</p>
<p>Maybe you are just starting out being self-employed and aren&#8217;t making any money yet.  Hey, I started out in the insurance business at age 22 and I struggled.  There was about a 2 year period when I didn&#8217;t have health insurance myself, and I&#8217;m in the biz!  </p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.freemarketcure.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.freemarketcure.com</a>,<br />
18 million of America&#8217;s uninsured are between 18 and 34 and spend 4 x more money on alcohol, tobacco, entertainment, and dining out than health care.<br />
17 million of America&#8217;s uninsured make over $50,000 per year.<br />
9 million make over $75,000 per year.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m going to ask you some tough questions:</p>
<p>Do you have cable / satellite TV?<br />
Are you making monthly payments for a newer car?<br />
How many times per month do you eat out?<br />
Do you use tobacco?<br />
Do you have an expensive hobby ?</p>
<p>Most people do have the money to purchase health insurance, they are just spending it recreationally.</p>
<p>We live in a free country (for now).  You can choose not to purchase health insurance.  If you visit my website <a href="http://www.myHSAguy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.myHSAguy.com</a> you can quote many health insurance plans in your state.  Even if you go with a $5000 deductible you would still get the PPO network discount for whatever bills you do incur.  You can pay off a $5000 deductible far easier than a $100,000 cancer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said over and over again that I am an insurance agent that doesn&#8217;t like insurance.<br />
I agree with you that health insurance premiums today are too high.  </p>
<p>Believe it or not our beliefs are similar.  I just feel there is a need for a safety net.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: forHealth</title>
		<link>http://hsaguy.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/are-hsas-too-confusing/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>forHealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with HSA&#039;s is that they are connected to insurance plans. Insurance lobbyists were successful in requiring HSA&#039;s to be sold only with a high deductible plan. On the surface it makes sense because most people would want something to kick in during a catastrophic illness. Instead, HSA&#039;s are the same old thing. Insurance companies cherry pick applicants and the premiums are more than most people can afford to pay. In my case the premiums were so high that I would never have been able to save anything in the HSA. 

Thanks to the insurance companies, MSA&#039;s are no longer an option as they were legally eliminated in most states. It&#039;s not that they weren&#039;t affordable as that is an outright lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with HSA&#8217;s is that they are connected to insurance plans. Insurance lobbyists were successful in requiring HSA&#8217;s to be sold only with a high deductible plan. On the surface it makes sense because most people would want something to kick in during a catastrophic illness. Instead, HSA&#8217;s are the same old thing. Insurance companies cherry pick applicants and the premiums are more than most people can afford to pay. In my case the premiums were so high that I would never have been able to save anything in the HSA. </p>
<p>Thanks to the insurance companies, MSA&#8217;s are no longer an option as they were legally eliminated in most states. It&#8217;s not that they weren&#8217;t affordable as that is an outright lie.</p>
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